Stoico asked in comments regarding my Twilight Zone kill:
Im curious, what tac did you use ? dont kill whelps at first drake ? And how about the adds from the other 2 ? And lastly what was your setup.
Im very curious to those questions. As we are heading back in there tomorrow night. For the 3rd time. And we are all very eager to get it down... :)
Let me break it down for you.
First, the raid composition was like this. The unholy DK was the Sarth tank, the prot warrior was the drake tank, and the prot paladin (me!) was the whelp/add tank. For healing, the disc priest took care of the DK and the holy paladin Beacon'ed the DK and kept both the prot warrior and prot paladin up. Once Twilight Torment kicked in, the boomkin and ele shaman took turns helping on raid heals.
As for tactics - our DPS was fairly high, so we were able to take Tenebron down with only one whelp spawn *without using Heroism.* I went around gathering flame adds, then parked myself in front of the portal and waited for the whelps, snagging them in my Consecrate immediately upon their arrival. Once I had a firm hold on them, I dragged my mass of baddies to Tenebron's a$$ and waited. When Tenebron died, the AoE nuked the crap out of the whelps and then turned to Shadron. Somewhere in there the hunter Misdirect'ed Tenebron to the prot warrior for additional threat and then got one of the other drakes to her with Misdirect as well.
After that, I went around picking up flame adds and killing 'em myself with some super-happy-fun-time shield slamming. The rest of the raid blew Heroism and took Shadron down, and then chipped away at Vesperon, being careful not to kill themselves. Once Vesperon was down, everyone but the DK, the two pure healers, and myself went into the portal to take out the acolytes. I HoP'ed the disc priest just to be safe (she got zerged down by random flames the last time we got that far, I was taking no chances) and stood on top of her, Consecrating and killing flames. Once the acolytes were down, cruise control to win. I started having aggro fights with the prot warrior on flame adds while everyone caught their breath and took chunks out of Sarth.
Other logistical notes - I put raid icons on myself and the holy paladin so we could find each other. Oftentimes the holy pally was the one with adds on him, so he would run them to my Consecrate.
For blessings in this group with a holy & prot, both having Kings and the holy having improved Wisdom, we did the following:
Warrior - Sanctuary and Kings
Death Knight - Sanctuary and Kings
Paladin - Sanctuary and Kings (10 minute Wisdom on holy from prot)
Priest - Kings and Wisdom
Druid - Kings and Wisdom
Shaman - Kings and Wisdom
Mage - Kings and Wisdom
Hunter - Kings and Might
I judged Light on whelps/adds to help heal myself a little. Not sure what the holy was judging. Auras were Improved Devo from me, and Fire from the holy.
Any other questions? I'll add additional stuff to this post to address anything anyone might want to know.
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First up thanks for the quick reply.
Glad to hear you have choosen the same tactic as we do. We also run with 3 tanks, 2 healers and 5 dps. With our elemental shaman switch out to help healing when Shadron and Vesperon is down.
We have a priest on the sarth tank, he is speccing disipline for this next attempt. And use a resto druid on the other tanks.
You say fairly high dps. How high is that ?
We have had aour dps range with a bit over 4K dps, to around 3,5K for our shaman (as he gets out healing), the rest is in between. You think that is enough dps.
We use a Druid with very high stamina to tank sarth, dont have any DK tanks. You think that would give us a problem ? And do your DK use any fire res gear to, take the top of the damage on the breaths ?
Sry, about all the questions. Just so damn eager to get it down... hehe.
I don't know how much DPS they do on average. If you can take Tenebron down with only one whelp spawn, you're in good shape. If you can't, you might be in trouble.
A feral druid is fine to tank Sarth. Just make sure to coordinate survival cooldowns (bearwall, Pain Suppression, Hand of Sacrifice, etc) so that they are used in rotation.
No fire resist gear was used. Just make sure a cooldown gets used on every one of Sarth's breaths and all should be okay.
Follow-up
Looking at the guild's DPS reports from their 25-man runs last night, here are the numbers for several of the players involved. Please take into account that these numbers are for a 25-man Patchwerk that took 2:58 total time.
Ele shaman - 5460, 97% presence
Arcane mage - 5314, 97% presence
Surival hunter - 4728, 98% presence
The boomkin that we used is usually resto, so I don't have any numbers on him, and the shadow priest isn't a regular raider. But here's some numbers on that Patchwerk fight from one of the guild's other shadow priests:
Shadow priest - 4805, 96% presence
Unfortunately, I don't run a DPS meter, otherwise I would have actual numbers on the fight for you. Hope this helps.
You don't run a meter? How do you know how you're doing, then?
Fed
@Fedaykin
I don't care how I'm doing. If the boss dies and no one looks at me funny, I did fine. When I really want to know how I'm doing, I ask someone else to link me their Recount.
Once again tnx Josh. If we compare those numbers to our own runs, we should be more than fine on the dps side.
I have one more question though. How do you deal with shadron and Vesperons adds ? Or more precise when ?
My tactic was to blow shadron down, go into the portal kill the shadron add. Move out again to kill vesperon. And after he is down, deal with his add. My idea was to get rid of shadrons debuff ASAP, and then move out on vesperon again, to minimize the time in the portal. Or is that just to make it too complicated ?
We dealt with the acolytes after Vesperon was dead. As I wrote in the post above...
Once Vesperon was down, everyone but the DK, the two pure healers, and myself went into the portal to take out the acolytes. I HoP'ed the disc priest just to be safe (she got zerged down by random flames the last time we got that far, I was taking no chances) and stood on top of her, Consecrating and killing flames. Once the acolytes were down, cruise control to win.
Kill Tenebron, kill whelps, kill Shadron, kill Vesperon, kill acolytes, kill Sartharion.
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