tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3304405110845468577.post1487353371534220112..comments2023-10-11T08:24:00.580-04:00Comments on Eye for an Eye: WotLK: Buffs and Debuffs ChangesShwitz44http://www.blogger.com/profile/12859042711928927792noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3304405110845468577.post-51577998247180245162008-09-18T23:57:00.000-04:002008-09-18T23:57:00.000-04:00@ Eric, I respectfully disagree. Paladin mana issu...@ Eric, I respectfully disagree. Paladin mana issues, at least as they are for Ret on the PTR, are virtually gone. You now essentially have a blue rage bar that starts full. I believe Divine Plea should also help out, unless it became a talent, but I think it was going to be trainable to the last time I looked. Right now the DPS for Ret is just batshit crazy. I have been three shotting everything in IQD on the PTR. Of course this is all subject to change, but essentially it looks like Ret Pallys are a Warrior/SPriest hybrid atm. Just my observations.Dakkarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04141859172417421504noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3304405110845468577.post-45149254550878812702008-09-13T21:14:00.000-04:002008-09-13T21:14:00.000-04:00DPS hasn't been tuned yet for, well, anybody.you h...DPS hasn't been tuned yet for, well, anybody.<BR/>you have combat rogues stuck at 1600 DPS at 80, in Naxx 25, fully raidbuffed.<BR/>you have mut rogues using HOLY SHIT OP poisons and doing 4-5000 DPS, most of it from the poison.<BR/><BR/>They've said that every DPS spec should do very close to the same damage in equal gear, but we don't even know if entry level Naxx DPS should be 2k or 3k...and yes, the current top of the heap could well do less DPS in sunwell gear once they hit 80, since they'll lose a huge amount of crit/hit/haste/arpen/expertise from the rating scaling, but won't replace much until Naxx.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10751664962525113376noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3304405110845468577.post-78260147503694647732008-09-10T14:48:00.000-04:002008-09-10T14:48:00.000-04:00Note that Ferocious Inspiration is (for the time b...Note that Ferocious Inspiration is (for the time being) a 3% party buff and Ret Aura is a 2% raid wide buff. So it's kinda comparing apples to oranges.<BR/><BR/>They do not stack either so groups with hunters in them will be getting a 1% damage boost opposed to the raid.<BR/><BR/>There is no uniqueness to bringing a Ret raider anymore besides 2% raid damage buff, that doesn't stack, and Divine Storm for the extra melee healing. Combine this with mana issues and lackluster dps and it sounds like many Ret paladins will be borderline benchwarmers.Erichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03734943814412678082noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3304405110845468577.post-61832561581106298662008-09-10T14:41:00.000-04:002008-09-10T14:41:00.000-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Erichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03734943814412678082noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3304405110845468577.post-20623514540616228182008-09-10T05:27:00.000-04:002008-09-10T05:27:00.000-04:00That is exactly what Blizzard is trying to achieve...That is exactly what Blizzard is trying to achieve, so the raid leader doesn't say "hey we need a Ret Pally" he says "hay we need Cathmor" and is not worried about covering all the buffs.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06440875950438739983noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3304405110845468577.post-90447569914379684212008-09-09T15:35:00.000-04:002008-09-09T15:35:00.000-04:00Hi Josh,Your analysis of what other classes can pr...Hi Josh,<BR/><BR/>Your analysis of what other classes can provide those buffs is right.<BR/><BR/>But as I read your list, I think of the raid composition that I usually go to Kara/ZA with:<BR/><BR/>1 prot pally<BR/>1 feral druid<BR/>1 resto shaman<BR/>2 holy pallies<BR/>2 warlocks<BR/>2 MM hunters<BR/>1 rogue<BR/><BR/><BR/>One of our holy pallies would love to be Ret - he keeps spec'ing it for PVP/questing, and switching back to Holy for raids. In Wrath, it would be great if he spent more time as Ret, because we don't have any other source of the buffs you listed. (No spriests, no moonkins, no survival hunters, no BM hunters.)<BR/><BR/>Bring it on, I'm looking forward to the changes.Jacobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00127584397643916476noreply@blogger.com